Wow! I remember being 14 years old, when this album came out. Now Im almost 41. I also remember buying this CD when I found out about its release.. Undertow has always been my favorite album out of them all. Closely seconded by Lateralus. Believe it or not I still have my original CDs they sit stored away safely in a memory box right next to my 1989 cassette of the Pretty Hate Machine LOL! Rock on guys, y'all are still rocking out some of the best music out there!
Stone Age cave painters 'starved themselves of oxygen to connect with cosmos’
In a state of hypoxia the levels of dopamine in the brain increase, resulting in hallucinations and out-of-body experiences
Stone Age cave painters might have deliberately starved themselves of oxygen to bring about hallucinations in a bid to “connect with the cosmos”.
Archaeologists studying what led humans in the Upper Paleolithic period to venture down deep into caves to produce their paintings rather than create art nearer the entrances believe they intentionally wanted to induce a state of hypoxia, or oxygen deprivation.
Many cave paintings are located in halls or narrow passages, navigable only with artificial light. A study, led by researchers at the University of Tel-Aviv, simulated the effect of torches on oxygen concentrations in similar spaces and discovered oxygen levels quickly decreased to levels known to induce hypoxia.
In this state the levels of dopamine in the brain increase, resulting in hallucinations and out-of-body experiences. Heading into these small, dark passages, was “a conscious choice, motivated by an understanding of the transformative nature of an underground, oxygen-depleted space”, according to the study, published in Time and Mind: The Journal of Archaeology, Consciousness and Culture.
The environment allowed early humans to “maintain their connectedness with the cosmos,” it adds.
Lead author Gil Kedar said that she first became intrigued by the decision to create the paintings so deep inside the caves while visiting rock-art sites in Europe.
“I wondered why they went into the dark, into such seclusion – why go to the end a kilometre inside? These caves are scary, with narrow passages, and I kept banging my head,” she told Israeli newspaper Haaretz.
The new research, she suggested, demonstrates that these Stone Age artists travelled so far down the caves because, in their state of euphoria, “they believed something was there, that there were entities beyond the wall”.
Hard-to-reach sites where cave paintings have been found include Lascaux Cave in the Dordogne region of France. Paintings in the complex cave system are thought to be around 20,000 years old.
In a separate paper, the authors said: “The rock face itself was conceived as a membrane, a tissue connecting the here-and-now world andthe underground world beyond… a world of prosperity, plenty and growth”.
I haven't been to the deepest of the cave, but I have definitely experienced euphoria or something on some level of an elevated state of being and it was very, very dark. However, there was a door. Not a stone membrane. Yes, that's the most fascinating to read about. The inner and outer and unknown.
I read an interesting quote from the late writer Shelby Foote, yesterday that I think could apply in this scenario, or, if not this, mine.
"When you're working hard, you're not lonely. You're the whole damn world."
In essence, the cave dwellers saw everything in nothing and vice versa.
The question is, where are we now?? Are we still in the cave?? It's something to entertain.
Yes, I remember 1993 and having the cassette of Undertow. Sober (on the radio) was first, then Prison Sex. Completely blew my mind. But, my most vivid memory is listening to Swamp Song on a walkman. I listened very closely. That song really showed me how the bass, guitar, vocal rhythm and drum could lock together as a unit and drive my ears to new exciting places. Do you have a favorite track ? I don't. I love them all. Cheers.
I know, it's quite an immense vibration, sensational tube of distorted guitar and epic transitions into black, blissful quiet obliteration. A true thrill every spin. And, it was never a daylight brighter, than when I woke up in my ditch. Wow, the places.
Wow! I remember being 14 years old, when this album came out. Now Im almost 41. I also remember buying this CD when I found out about its release.. Undertow has always been my favorite album out of them all. Closely seconded by Lateralus. Believe it or not I still have my original CDs they sit stored away safely in a memory box right next to my 1989 cassette of the Pretty Hate Machine LOL! Rock on guys, y'all are still rocking out some of the best music out there!
Happy Birthday to a great piece of art!
Amen
Hallelujah
Thank you Jesus!
Stone Age cave painters 'starved themselves of oxygen to connect with cosmos’
In a state of hypoxia the levels of dopamine in the brain increase, resulting in hallucinations and out-of-body experiences
Stone Age cave painters might have deliberately starved themselves of oxygen to bring about hallucinations in a bid to “connect with the cosmos”.
Archaeologists studying what led humans in the Upper Paleolithic period to venture down deep into caves to produce their paintings rather than create art nearer the entrances believe they intentionally wanted to induce a state of hypoxia, or oxygen deprivation.
Many cave paintings are located in halls or narrow passages, navigable only with artificial light. A study, led by researchers at the University of Tel-Aviv, simulated the effect of torches on oxygen concentrations in similar spaces and discovered oxygen levels quickly decreased to levels known to induce hypoxia.
In this state the levels of dopamine in the brain increase, resulting in hallucinations and out-of-body experiences. Heading into these small, dark passages, was “a conscious choice, motivated by an understanding of the transformative nature of an underground, oxygen-depleted space”, according to the study, published in Time and Mind: The Journal of Archaeology, Consciousness and Culture.
The environment allowed early humans to “maintain their connectedness with the cosmos,” it adds.
Lead author Gil Kedar said that she first became intrigued by the decision to create the paintings so deep inside the caves while visiting rock-art sites in Europe.
“I wondered why they went into the dark, into such seclusion – why go to the end a kilometre inside? These caves are scary, with narrow passages, and I kept banging my head,” she told Israeli newspaper Haaretz.
The new research, she suggested, demonstrates that these Stone Age artists travelled so far down the caves because, in their state of euphoria, “they believed something was there, that there were entities beyond the wall”.
Hard-to-reach sites where cave paintings have been found include Lascaux Cave in the Dordogne region of France. Paintings in the complex cave system are thought to be around 20,000 years old.
In a separate paper, the authors said: “The rock face itself was conceived as a membrane, a tissue connecting the here-and-now world andthe underground world beyond… a world of prosperity, plenty and growth”.
Wow, now, that is some cosmic vision there. Thank you for sharing this exploratory, fascinating articulation with us today
I haven't been to the deepest of the cave, but I have definitely experienced euphoria or something on some level of an elevated state of being and it was very, very dark. However, there was a door. Not a stone membrane. Yes, that's the most fascinating to read about. The inner and outer and unknown.
I read an interesting quote from the late writer Shelby Foote, yesterday that I think could apply in this scenario, or, if not this, mine.
"When you're working hard, you're not lonely. You're the whole damn world."
In essence, the cave dwellers saw everything in nothing and vice versa.
The question is, where are we now?? Are we still in the cave?? It's something to entertain.
Thank you for your time.
RSD June 12th July 17th??
28. So young, yet so wise. *Such a powerful display of chops! *Awesome! Happy birthday! 🤘👆
Happy Birthday!! I remember when Undertow was released. Impressed in '93, still impressed today 🤘🤘
Yes, I remember 1993 and having the cassette of Undertow. Sober (on the radio) was first, then Prison Sex. Completely blew my mind. But, my most vivid memory is listening to Swamp Song on a walkman. I listened very closely. That song really showed me how the bass, guitar, vocal rhythm and drum could lock together as a unit and drive my ears to new exciting places. Do you have a favorite track ? I don't. I love them all. Cheers.
Impossible to pick! The album is so beyond EPIC.
Nice. Very nice.
I know, it's quite an immense vibration, sensational tube of distorted guitar and epic transitions into black, blissful quiet obliteration. A true thrill every spin. And, it was never a daylight brighter, than when I woke up in my ditch. Wow, the places.